Boualem Sansal's arrest and a spaceship

This article is written in German. Automatic translations:

Boualem Sansal's latest novel Vivre: le compte à rebours (Gallimard, 2024) tells a dystopian story set in an apocalyptic world. On closer inspection, it becomes clear that the text is full of allusions to the political, social, and cultural realities of Algeria. Through his metaphorical narrative style, Sansal not only criticizes global phenomena such as totalitarianism and environmental destruction, but also specific injustices in his homeland. In the face of impending doom, a spaceship for four billion passengers is introduced as a potential savior of humanity, one that could evacuate the survivors from an inevitable catastrophe. At the same time, the spaceship represents hope and escape, but also the impossibility of escaping the consequences of human destruction. It alludes to the longing for redemption and a new existence outside the current repressive and chaotic reality. The idea that only certain “chosen ones” are allowed on the spaceship reflects the arbitrariness and exclusivity of authoritarian power structures that exercise selective control over life and death.

— Si nous laissons la peur et l'intolérance posée comme dogme nous gouverner, personne n'embarquera, le vaisseau repartira vide, les musulmans ne veulent de personne, les juifs ne veulent pas des musulmans et de leurs amis, les Américains ne voudront pas des Chinois et de leurs clients et inversement, les Européens refuseront les Russes et vice versa, j'imagine que personne ne voudra des Africanins, des Amérindiens, des Aborigènes, et de proche en proche on refusera les albinos, les Mongoliens, les drogués, les handicapés, les LGBT++, les vieux, les repris de justice, etc. Si j'ai bien compté, cela represents 99,99% of the global population. À part les grands bouffis d'orgueil et les sataniques qui trouveront porte close devant eux, notre Seigneur ouvre ses bras et les portes du ciel à tous, aux croyants comme aux gentils, les petits, les pauvres, les malades, les possédés, les brigands, les fraudeurs and prostitutes. À tous, il sera pardonné. Les Musulmans n'étaient pas nés en son temps mais Jésus les aurait pareillement accueillis, comme nous les accueillons aujourd'hui chez nous et les accueillerons demain dans notre new planète, y compris ceux qui se comportent mal avec nous, avec le temps et la force de nos prières, nous réussirons à en faire de vrais amis.

— C'est bel et bon tout ça, mais comment sélectionner, c'est de ça qu'on parle. The jauge du vaisseau is de quatre billions de personnes au mieux.

— Nous demanderons aux gens de s'interroger en conscience et de décider entre eux qui partira et qui restera, l'homme sait aussi être altruiste et nos frères musulmans sauront l'être aussi, comme l'ont été le grand Saladin et le non moins immense émir Abdelkader, dont ils sauront without doute s'inspirer.

Boualem Sansal, Vivre: Le compte à rebours (Gallimard, 2024).

If we allow ourselves to be ruled by fear and intolerance, no one will board, the ship will be empty, the Muslims won't want anyone, the Jews won't want the Muslims and their friends, the Americans won't want the Chinese and their customers and vice versa, the Europeans will reject the Russians and vice versa, I suppose no one will want the Africans, the Native Americans, the Aborigines, and from one to the next, albinos, people with Down syndrome, drug addicts, the disabled, LGBT++ people, the elderly, prisoners, etc., will be rejected. If I've counted correctly, that's 99,99 percent of the world's population. Apart from the arrogant powerful and the devilish people who will find themselves standing before closed doors, our Lord opens his arms and the gates of heaven to everyone, to believers and non-believers, to the little ones, the poor, the sick, the possessed, the robbers, the swindlers, and the prostitutes. All will be forgiven. Muslims were not born in Jesus' time, but he would have welcomed them just as we welcome them today and will welcome them tomorrow on our new planet, even those who behave badly towards us. With time and the power of our prayers, we will manage to make them true friends.

That's all well and good, but we're talking about how to choose. The spaceship has a capacity of four billion people.

We will ask people to examine their own consciences and decide together who leaves and who stays. Human beings can be altruistic, and our Muslim brothers will be, just as the great Saladin and the no less immense Emir Abd el-Kader were, from whom they will undoubtedly draw inspiration.

The arrest of writer Boualem Sansal in Algeria on November 16, 2024, caused an international stir and represents another chapter in the strained relations between Algeria and France. The 75-year-old Sansal, also known in Germany as a controversial intellectual and critic of the Algerian regime through his books – not least due to the sustained commitment of the Merlin Publishing —was arrested by civilian security forces shortly after his arrival at the airport and has been detained ever since. He is accused of endangering the “unity of the nation” and the “territorial integrity of Algeria” through his statements—accusations that could, in the worst-case scenario, lead to a life sentence. Sansal, known for his unwavering criticism of corruption and Islamism, has made a name for himself as a writer who knows neither compromise nor self-censorship. Since his literary breakthrough with Le serment des barbares Since 1999, he has been a central figure in the intellectual resistance. However, Sansal is also active outside of literature and regularly comments on political and historical issues. His recent statements about Algeria's historical borders—particularly his claim that western regions of the country historically belonged to Morocco—have been perceived by the Algerian government as provocative and revisionist.

On the critique of Algeria in Sansal's work

For over a quarter of a century, Boualem Sansal has grappled intensely with the political, social, and cultural ills of Algeria in his works. His novels and essays offer incisive analyses of Algerian reality, particularly corruption, totalitarianism, and the influence of Islamism. His debut novel... The Oath of the Barbarians (1999) Sansal describes the effects of corruption and religious fanaticism in Algeria. The novel is set after the civil war of the 1990s and tells the story of an investigator who solves the murder of an Algerian businessman, uncovering a network of political corruption and violence. In this work, Sansal criticizes the corrosive role of the state and the lack of justice. Dis-moi le paradis In 2003, Sansal interweaves a fictional narrative with reflections on the state of Algeria. The protagonist, an archaeologist, travels through the country and observes the destruction of its cultural and social heritage. Here, Sansal accuses Algeria of losing its identity and history through nepotism and political oppression. Le Village de l'Allemand or the journal of Brother Schiller In his 2008 novel, Sansal explores the themes of violence and guilt in Algeria, connecting them to the country's Nazi past. Two brothers discover that their father was a former SS officer and grapple with the parallels between totalitarian regimes in Germany and Algeria. Sansal thus critiques the authoritarian nature of the Algerian regime and its culture of violence. – In the essay Govern in the name of Allah (2013) Sansal analyzes the political and social power of Islamism in Algeria. He warns of the rise of radical movements and shows how these undermine democracy and citizens' rights. His critique is explicit and directed against the political instrumentalization of religion. – In the dystopian allegory 2084: The End of the World (2015), inspired by George Orwell's 1984Sansal depicts a totalitarian world ruled by a theocratic dictatorship. The parallels to Algeria are unmistakable: Sansal denounces the entanglement of power and religion and describes the effects of a repressive system on society. – In dialogue with Boris Cyrulnik in The Impossible Peace in the Mediterranean (2017) Sansal discusses the political tensions and historical conflicts in the Mediterranean region. Algeria's isolated and conflict-ridden position is described here as an obstacle to regional stability. – In autobiographical reflection My Algeria (2021) Sansal describes his homeland as a country plagued by corruption and mismanagement. He condemns the historical instrumentalization of the independence movement and the regime's unwillingness to face the truth. Sansal writes: "The political class has held the country hostage and destroyed the people's dreams." In his work, Boualem Sansal exposes the injustices in his homeland and calls for enlightenment, freedom, and justice.

In more recent essays, criticism of Algeria is increasingly linked to a universalist perspective: In France-Algérie, résilience et réconciliation en Méditerranée (2020) Sansal criticizes Algeria's refusal to reflect on its own role in history and its use of the colonial narrative to distract from domestic problems; he examines the complex and often strained relationship between Algeria and France and argues for an honest reckoning with the colonial past and reconciliation on equal terms. In the essay Where is France going? (2021) Sansal also addresses France critically, while continuing to focus on Algeria. He describes the impact of migration and the unresolved colonial history on the identity of both countries. Sansal's Lettre d'amitié, de respect et de mise en garde aux people et aux nations de la terre (2021) urges Algeria to confront the challenges of the present and break out of its isolation; the letter can be understood as a universal appeal for peace and mutual respect, citing Algeria as an example of a country that isolates itself due to corruption and mismanagement. The essay Let's talk about French! (2024) offers subtle criticism of the Algerian rejection of the French language, which is used as an ideological weapon despite its deep cultural and historical roots. At the same time, Sansal's essay is a plea for the importance of the French language and its role as a cultural asset. He uses the language as a symbol for the complex, often contradictory relationship between Algeria and France. In the book L'humain au center du monde – Pour un humanisme des temps present et à venir. Against the new obscurantisms Boualem Sansal contributes to the volume (2024), edited by Daniel Salvatore Schiffer. Here, he demonstrates his ongoing engagement with the themes of freedom, justice, and humanism. While Algeria is not explicitly the focus, his critique of the political and social conditions of his homeland within the context of the “new obscurantisms” is clearly present. The work can therefore be understood as an expansion of his well-known positions, which embed Algeria’s challenges within a global discourse. Sansal denounces the resurgence of obscurantism and fanaticism in various parts of the world, including Algeria. He critically examines the role played by authoritarian regimes and the instrumentalization of religion for political purposes, seeing this as a threat to humanity and progress. This theme also extends to Algeria, which he has cited in earlier essays as an example of the problematic connection between politics and Islamism. Sansal advocates for a renewed humanism based on freedom, dialogue, and critical thinking. This position stands in direct contrast to the repressive structures he experienced and criticized in Algeria. His call for a “recentralization to the human” can also be understood as an implicit appeal to Algeria to respect individual dignity and freedom of expression. Although the essay does not explicitly focus on Algeria, Sansal’s approach of analyzing the “new obscurantisms” worldwide points to parallels with the Algerian reality. His critique of a lack of transparency, corruption, and ideological oppression is formulated in universal terms, but is also deeply rooted in his personal experience with the Algerian regime.

Regarding the arrest and the reactions

The arrest of Boualem Sansal comes at a time of heightened tensions between Algeria and France. In the summer of 2024, France recognized Morocco's sovereignty over the disputed territory of Western Sahara—a decision Algeria viewed as an affront. Sansal's statements on historical borders appear to have further fueled these conflicts. Additionally, Sansal's arrest is being interpreted as a show of force by the Algerian military under General Saïd Changriha, who is exhibiting increasingly authoritarian tendencies. Sansal, who acquired French citizenship in 2024, has been a target of the Algerian regime for years. His works, while internationally acclaimed, are viewed critically in his homeland. His trip to Israel in 2014 already sparked widespread criticism in Algeria. His arrest underscores the growing tensions between state censorship and the pursuit of intellectual freedom.

The arrest sparked outrage worldwide, particularly in France. President Emmanuel Macron expressed his “deepest concern” and stated that the French government was actively working to clarify the situation. Colleagues such as Kamel Daoud, himself a prominent critic of the Algerian regime, described Sansal as “the voice of freedom that the Algerian people must not lose.” Alongside prominent Francophonie intellectuals like Leïla Slimani, Yasmina Khadra, and Tahar Ben Jelloun, other figures and institutions have expressed solidarity with Boualem Sansal and called for his release. Gallimard, Sansal’s publisher, issued an official appeal for the author’s “immediate release,” expressing its “deepest concern” about the writer’s situation. PEN International also called for Sansal’s release and warned of the increasing repression of intellectuals in Algeria. “The arrest of Boualem Sansal is not only an attack on the freedom of an outstanding writer, but on freedom of expression as a whole,” said Najem Wali, Vice President of PEN Germany and Writers-in-Prison Officer. “Boualem Sansal has always demonstrated the courage to openly address injustices and shed light on the dark chapters of Algerian history. His enforced silence must not become a symbol of a creeping suppression of freedom of expression.”

The arrest of Sansal is symbolic of the long-standing tensions between Algeria and France, which are deeply rooted in colonial history. It once again highlights the systematic repression of critical voices in Algeria and further strains the already tense diplomatic relations between the two countries.

Sansal's Vivre (2024): Criticism of Algeria in a dystopian countdown

The plot of Vivre The novel is structured as a countdown—a numerical sequence of days leading readers toward an uncertain, fateful event. This structure could be interpreted as a symbol of the insecurity and stagnation prevalent in Algerian society. The recurring motif of “waiting for a catastrophe” reflects the feeling that little has changed in Algeria for decades, while problems—corruption, unemployment, and political repression—remain unresolved. In the novel, the protagonist feels increasingly isolated as he tries to decipher clues pointing to an impending global event. This isolation may be seen as a metaphor for Algeria’s political and cultural position. The country, once celebrated for its revolutionary liberation, is increasingly isolated from the international community, particularly due to its authoritarian structures and lack of freedom of expression. At the same time, the novel hints at surveillance by “higher powers,” a possible echo of the pervasiveness of state control in Algeria.

The novel, like the earlier books critical of Islamism, describes a world in which religious symbolism and mystical elements are used to control people. This narrative choice can be understood as an allusion to the way religious rhetoric is politicized in Algeria and used to legitimize repressive measures. Vivre The importance of preserving memories is repeatedly emphasized. A key passage reads: “Oublier, c’est vivre comme un mort qui s’ignore” (“To forget is to live like a dead person who doesn’t know themselves”). This can also be read as a commentary on Algeria’s handling of its colonial and post-colonial history. The regime is criticized for glorifying the independence movement while simultaneously failing to address the internal conflicts and mistakes of the revolution. The novel cautions that true renewal is impossible without an honest reckoning with history.

Entretien avec BOUALEM SANSAL. Animé by Sandra Alfonsi and Michel Peretti, the book is based on the novel, the anticipation Vivre. Le compte à rebours (Gallimard, 2024).

A recurring motif in Vivre is the invisibility of truth. The protagonist chases after symbols and signs without ever arriving at a definitive understanding. This portrayal can also be seen, among other things, as an allegory for the systematic disinformation and lack of transparency in Algeria. By silencing critics like Sansal or Kamel Daoud, the regime creates an environment in which truth is not only difficult to access but is actively suppressed. The intellectual figures in Vivre They struggle to be heard and to make sense of a world hurtling towards the abyss. This, in a way, mirrors Sansal's own fate, as he is considered a literary dissident in Algeria. His protagonists are often lost souls trying to fight against the monotony and lethargy of an oppressive system – a theme that, in reality, affects many intellectuals who face censorship and a lack of freedom of expression in Algeria.

Although Vivre While the novel depicts a global dystopia, the described injustices, in one possible interpretation, are based on the political reality of Algeria. The "J-780" countdown can be understood as a symbol of the feeling that the country is heading towards a crisis without a clear way out or a vision for the future. The apocalyptic mood in the novel corresponds to the ongoing frustration of many Algerians with the country's political and economic dead ends. Boualem Sansal Vivre It is therefore far more than a dystopian science fiction novel. Through subtle allusions and universal themes such as isolation, loss of control, and the search for truth, Sansal formulates a biting critique of Algeria's political and social reality. The novel is thus also a warning that without freedom, transparency, and an honest confrontation with the past, no future is possible—neither for Algeria nor for the rest of the world.

In light of the arrest of the writer Boualem Sansal, we read the novel Vivre Of course, more urgently: Here, topics such as arrests and state repression are addressed indirectly, but often in a metaphorical or dystopian context. There are several passages that point to the loss of individual freedoms and the power of authoritarian regimes, which can be interpreted as an allusion to real conditions in Algeria. Vivre The idea of ​​imprisonment is presented on various levels. The protagonist feels increasingly isolated and monitored, which can be interpreted as a symbol of the restriction of freedom of expression and omnipresent state control; this "captivity" is reminiscent of the systematic repression faced by political dissidents and intellectuals in Algeria. Throughout the novel, the protagonist repeatedly attempts to decipher signs and symbols while being observed by an unseen power. This narrative choice reflects the surveillance mechanisms often employed by authoritarian regimes to exert control over the population. The "invisible power" in the novel could be interpreted as an allegory for the Algerian security services or other repressive state institutions. The spaceship, promising salvation, is clearly linked to the condemnation of criminals and dictators.

On the other hand, the world is not attentive to the fact that it is clean, part of the clothes. La Terre serait-elle à ce point invivable que les gens sautent à pieds joints dans la première soucoupe qui passe ? Ça donnait à réfléchir. Merveilleux internautes, ils n'ont pas hésité une seconde, adieu comfort loisir télé et ruine de l'âme, adieu métro boulot dodo impôt, adieu ce monde circulaire où on dépense son wage justusqu'au dernier sou en carburet pour aller au diable vauvert gagner durement ledit salary. Les questions arrive in packages of mille, you will have the opportunity to save your inspiration, you will also have the choice to pay, or embarquer, the bags will be delivered, the vaccines will be exigés, the mask will be porter, which is the sauveur, the venait-il, In the source of the galaxy there are several déposés, seraient-ils hébergés chez l'habitant le temps de se construct une cabane dans les bois, etc. Des capitalistes, des entreprises, des courtiers are sont proposés d'investir dans l'affaire. Trois à quatre billions de personnes captives à informer, coacher, rassembler, nourrir, vêtir, soigner, distraire durant le voyage galactique, à équiper en moyens de survie à l'arrivée, c'était le jackpot pour les marchands de bien-être. Ils voulaient des building emphytéotiques de mille ans sur un quart du vaisseau pour stocker leurs marchandises et un other quart bien situé pour installer leurs boutiques. Ne parlons pas des other internautes, les négatifs, les nauséabonds, les rats d'égout, les serpents venimeux, ils ne méritent que silence et haussements d'épaules, ils insultent, ricanent, ils suggèrent d'appeler l'asile des fous, les pompiers, the police of the étoiles. Ces gens n'aident en rien, ne servent à rien, sabotent tout. Dans mes équations de correction des échantillons représentatifs, j'introduirai à leur intention un virus de mon invention qui va les refroidir au sens médico-légal du terme. On ne vand même pas embarquer des morts et les côtoyer mille années durant. Nous demands aux Élus de faire le ménage eux-mêmes, avant embarquement, comme ils l'auraient fait, il ya belle lurette, s'ils en avaient eu le pouvoir et le courage. Ils Sauront que le vaisseau les couvrira de sa formidable puissance de fire. Allez, ouste, les dictators, les usurpateurs, les mafieux, les crapulards, l'avenir appartient aux gens de bien. Tiens, je crois que c'est ça la bonne définition de cet objet non identifié qu'est l'humanité, que je cherche depuis des années : l'humanité, ce sont ces gens de bien qui, vaille que vaille, assurent le service de la vie.

Supprimer les vauriens n'est pas renier notre résolution de neutralité dans la selection, c'est faire les bons adjustments pour constituter des échantillons représentatifs sérieux, guarantees d'une société harmonieuse stable. Et puis charbonnier est maître en sa demeure, on fera pour le mieux si on ne sait pas faire bien. Je pense que ce grand voyage d'un millénaire, qui sent son millénarisme, est l'occasion unique pour les people de se débarrasser des malfaisants qui abîment leur vie et leur planète et d'apprendre à se libérer de l'esprit de soumission qui les habite depuis les origines. This is the occasion of a grand ménage de printemps. The idea is part of the libre spirit and the light heart, but it is a great sauté in the infinities of the universe.

Boualem Sansal, Vivre: Le compte à rebours (Gallimard, 2024).

It seemed as if the whole world had been just waiting to be saved and whisked away to the stars. Was Earth so uninhabitable that people would simply hop into the nearest flying saucer? It was food for thought. Wonderful internet users, they didn't hesitate for a second. Goodbye comfort, leisure, television, and spiritual decay; goodbye metro, work, sleep, taxes; goodbye circular world where you spend every last cent of your salary on fuel to go to hell and work hard for that very salary. The questions poured in; they wanted to know where to register, whether there were any fees, where to board, what luggage to take, what vaccinations were required, what mask to wear, who the savior was, where he came from, in which galaxy they would be dropped, whether they would stay with locals until they had built a cabin in the woods, and so on. Capitalists, corporations, and brokers offered their services to invest in the venture. Three to four billion people in captivity, who during the galactic journey were to be informed, coached, gathered, fed, clothed, cared for, entertained, and equipped with survival supplies upon arrival—that was the jackpot for the wealth merchants. They wanted thousand-year leases on a quarter of the ship to store their goods and another quarter in a prime location to set up their shops. Let's not talk about the other internet users, the negative ones, the smelly ones, the sewer rats, the venomous snakes; they deserve nothing but silence and a shrug. They insult, they spitefully suggest calling the asylum, the fire department, or the star police. These people are no help, they're useless, they sabotage everything. In my equations for correcting representative samples, I'll introduce a virus of my own invention that will, quite literally, incapacitate them. We can't just take dead people on board and live with them for a thousand years. We will ask the chosen ones to clean up before boarding, just as they would have done long ago if they had possessed the power and the courage. They will know that the ship will unleash its immense firepower upon them. Shoo, shoo, dictators, usurpers, mafiosi, villains—the future belongs to the good people. Here, I believe this is the correct definition of this unidentified object called humanity that I have been searching for for years: Humanity is the good people who, whatever they do, serve life.

Eliminating the villains does not mean we are abandoning our commitment to neutrality in selection, but rather that we are making the necessary adjustments to create reliable, representative samples that will guarantee a stable, harmonious society. Besides, we are masters in our own house; we will do our best, even if we cannot do it perfectly. I believe this great millennial journey, steeped in millennialism, is a unique opportunity for peoples to rid themselves of the evildoers who harm their lives and their planet, and to learn to free themselves from the spirit of subjugation that has been with them since their origins. This will be the opportunity for a great spring cleaning. The idea is to set out with a free mind and a light heart, for at the end lies the great leap into the infinite wonders of the universe.

The central countdown in the novel—J-780 to J-0—creates an atmosphere of coercion and inevitability. The protagonist feels "trapped" by this mysterious reckoning of time and unable to escape it. This can also be interpreted as an allusion to the omnipresent power of the state, which controls the lives of its citizens through its repressive mechanisms. Direct descriptions of arrests, such as those that occur during Sansal's own arrest or those of dissidents in Algeria, are absent from the novel. However, the conditions depicted—uncertainty, fear, and the loss of personal freedoms—strongly recall the experiences of people living under repressive systems. The novel metaphorically describes how an invisible hand intervenes in the characters' lives, a metaphor that can equally be applied to real-world repression.

Sansal's arrest demonstrates how closely literature and politics can be intertwined and how a writer can become a symbolic figure in the fight for freedom and justice. The world is now looking to Algeria and demanding: Freedom for Boualem Sansal.

Addendum: Algeria's reaction after Kamel Daoud's Goncourt Prize

The awarding of the prestigious Prix Goncourt 2024 to the Algerian-French writer Kamel Daoud for his novel Houris (cf. the Articles on this blogThe award has triggered sharp reactions in Algeria, both politically and socially. According to reports, state-affiliated media outlets were instructed to report on the literary success only superficially or to ignore it altogether. Some pro-government voices accused Daoud of making his literary success a result of his close ties to France, which he claimed repeatedly criticizes Algeria. The prize was interpreted as part of a "cultural agenda" aimed at legitimizing Algerian dissidents and defaming the country internationally. Daoud is also the target of a smear campaign. State-affiliated media and pro-government commentators have accused him of repeatedly defaming Algeria and its society in his works. One particularly controversial passage in Houris, which critically examines the role of religion in society, was interpreted as an "attack on Algerian identity".

While some intellectuals and literature lovers in Algeria celebrated Daoud's success as a source of national pride, the broader societal reaction remained rather muted. The increasing polarization between liberal intellectuals and conservative circles contributed to the highly politicized nature of the discussions surrounding Daoud. For the younger generation, increasingly informed by social media, however, the prize was seen as a triumph for an Algerian writer, regardless of his criticism of the regime. The Algerian regime's negative reaction to Daoud's Goncourt victory is part of a series of tensions between the Algerian government and critical intellectuals. Like Boualem Sansal, Daoud is also attacked for his unvarnished depictions of corruption, abuse of power, and societal stagnation. Both authors exemplify a new generation of Algerian writers who address the contradictions and injustices of their homeland and are celebrated internationally for doing so, while facing hostility at home. The Goncourt Prize awarded to Kamel Daoud has further strained the already tense relations between the Algerian government and critical voices. Here, too, Algeria demonstrates its inability to engage with the literary and intellectual voices of its own diaspora.

Reference / Citation suggestion
Nonnenmacher, Kai. "Boualem Sansal's arrest and a spaceship." Rentrée littéraire: contemporary French literature. 2024. Accessed on May 21, 2026 at 04:44 p.m. https://rentree.de/2024/11/23/boualem-sansals-festnahme-und-ein-raumschiff/.

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